On this episode of Youth Ministry Booster, the hosts announce the exciting news that Season 5: Revival Generation registration is now open!
This episode not only brings you exciting possibilities for the new season but takes some unexpected turns with discussions on vitamin water, scurvy, and Flintstone vitamin dipping sauce. I know right? You can already taste it.
In this season of Booster, we are focusing on the topic of revival and providing five challenges to help leaders reshape the conversation around it. The hosts and special guest Chad Higgins emphasize the importance of personal revival and the need for pastors to lead by example.
Season 5: Revival Generation discusses the importance of physical, mental, and spiritual health, accountability, and intentional growth in ministry.
Join the conversation and community! We encourage youth pastors to have honest relationships with those around them and work towards creating a community that prioritizes the church and the gospel. You can join the conversation and learn how to make a positive impact in student ministry and create lasting friendships with others.
On this episode of Youth Ministry Booster, the hosts announce the exciting news that Season 5: Revival Generation registration is now open!
This episode not only brings you exciting possibilities for the new season but takes some unexpected turns with discussions on vitamin water, scurvy, and Flintstone vitamin dipping sauce. I know right? You can already taste it.
In this season of Booster, we are focusing on the topic of revival and providing five challenges to help leaders reshape the conversation around it. The hosts and special guest Chad Higgins emphasize the importance of personal revival and the need for pastors to lead by example.
Season 5: Revival Generation discusses the importance of physical, mental, and spiritual health, accountability, and intentional growth in ministry.
Join the conversation and community! We encourage youth pastors to have honest relationships with those around them and work towards creating a community that prioritizes the church and the gospel. You can join the conversation and learn how to make a positive impact in student ministry and create lasting friendships with others.
Hey, welcome back to another episode of Youth Ministry Podcast. I'm hanging in the garage today with my best friend, chaddy. Wow, so much enthusiasm. My name is Zach Workin, we're glad you're here And we're going to talk about some things related to youth ministry. But we just wanted to say we're really excited because we got a big announcement Youth Ministry Booster, season 5 registration is open. So if you were ever looking to be a part of a community of growing, collaborative, coachable youth pastors that are excited for this next season of ministry, revival generation Season 5, revive is here for Youth Ministry Booster.
Speaker 1:We're excited about it. I know, i'm excited about it. Clearly It's on his face. No, listen, you caught me off guard Because we started. I was ready to go. Oh, you're ready to go. Yeah, and like most folks who may or may not have actually been diagnosed with ADHD, but just assume that they are, we'll sometimes chase a rabbit. Okay, just got caught, got caught in the thought.
Speaker 2:You gave me this vitamin water, not a sponsor Not a sponsor, by the way, could be, i don't know.
Speaker 1:We'll see, yeah you're hard to say. It says squeeze the lemonade flavor.
Speaker 2:They changed the logo and the graphic.
Speaker 1:What a squeeze me. What are they squeezing? They squeezed the lemons, but there's not limits in here.
Speaker 2:Well, i mean, it's got that squeezed flavor, but that's the thing They've squeezed all the unnecessary calories out of the lemonade.
Speaker 1:I just don't know what they're squeezing by the look of ingredients. They're squeezing the lemons. They're squeezing the lemons.
Speaker 2:It's great They're squeezing the citric acid. They're squeezing it. Yeah, they want you to have it. They want you to have what you need out of the lemons. It's all good for you. People ask if water is wet, can you squeeze water? Can you squeeze water? Just put it in a vise. Yeah, just get that wateriness out of the water, make it less watery. I don't know, maybe down to the essence, it's got zero sugar. They squeezed the sugar out. That's what they did.
Speaker 1:I feel like you're trying to sell me.
Speaker 2:I know, listen. Uh, they're not a sponsor. Big fans, though. Big fans of these zero, zero sugar squeeze. Uh yeah, Chad said I'm thirsty, I want something to drink. I popped this out of the fridge. I thought he met. They changed the logo. The lemonade color is now blue. Yeah, For some reason I've never had blue lemonade. Maybe that's what they squeezed the color out of it. It used to be yellow lemonade, Now it's got a blue chin.
Speaker 1:What's your?
Speaker 2:favorite vitamin. A favorite vitamin? Uh, i mean probably the sea. This. I like your big fan, big fan of the sea. The sea is good. You know, you get a little bit of that in your system. You feel better.
Speaker 1:Right, fight, scurvy You know, is that what it fights? Yeah?
Speaker 2:A lot of the sea fights the scurvy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what is scurvy?
Speaker 2:That's the pirate disease. It's the one. They didn't get enough fresh fruit and vitamins And they're just drinking seawater and a mess with you. Mickey vomiting dizzy, is it a? rash, i don't know, i don't know if it rashes.
Speaker 1:We don't know what. We don't know what scurvy is.
Speaker 2:We just know we don't want it, you don't want it, and if you're a listener and know what scurvy is, drop in the comments. That's a great look. I don't think that's. I'm just Don't link, don't link scurvy in the comments. That's not what we're here for. That's the wrong move.
Speaker 1:Just scurvy And look at you.
Speaker 2:Imagine People with Lincoln diseases in the comments.
Speaker 1:Just imagine showing up for the first time and you haven't started yet, because I'll always read comments before I start.
Speaker 2:You read the comments before you watch the video. I want to know what a crazy person you are. I want to know what the feel is. Oh, because the comments give you the full picture of the episode.
Speaker 1:They set the tone. They set the tone. What about the comments? set the tone.
Speaker 2:You kind of know what you're walking The trustworthiness of the episode is found in the comments. Yeah, okay, okay. So let's show up to the episode. The first comment is Hey, chad and Zach, great episode. Here's that link on scurvy Got you covered.
Speaker 1:You show up and you're like I want to find out about student ministry.
Speaker 2:And you're like no, not from that guy, not from this guy. But seriously, tim or Jacob, thanks for the link in the comments. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1:My favorite vitamin is Flintstone, Flintstone Oh you went like, Oh okay, All right.
Speaker 2:Well, when you're older, the answer will be Centrum What?
Speaker 1:is that taste? It's very unique taste in there.
Speaker 2:Flintstone. They've got a taste. It's a flavor.
Speaker 1:Even if you haven't had Flintstone vitamins in a long time.
Speaker 2:You still remember it To the point that even the great value version, the knockoff version, didn't have that taste. There was something about that name brand Flintstone taste that was it was a good.
Speaker 1:It was a different taste. It's good Shut up. It's so good You're craving it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I kind of actually want a couple. A couple little Vents, little Tabby's, little Flintstone Tabby's, just you know, bolster the old vitamin intake, What's the best condiment.
Speaker 1:On a Flintstone vitamin. Oh, If you had to dip a Flintstone vitamin In something, In something. What's the best? Because I can't think of one that I'm like.
Speaker 2:Like even sweets, like Even chocolate sauce wouldn't fix it, right, right.
Speaker 1:It actually is more repulsive.
Speaker 2:I think you actually have to go like mustard You, just, you, just, fight it, just fight it, just put them in conflict. Yeah, then it's like I don't know what I'm tasting, because they're fighting on the tip of my tongue.
Speaker 1:Yeah, What is a mustard covered? Flintstone vitamin taste like.
Speaker 2:This game brought to you by Chad Higgins, downloadables. I don't know like that. That's rough, that's a rough taste, do you think wow? I cannot picture the flavor of a Flintstone In my mind.
Speaker 1:Because I can, very clearly I can taste Flintstone vitamin And mustard. Too separate, which is very good, i think I would know what a Flintstone vitamin dipped in chocolate I think I can picture that You got that OK. I don't like it, yeah, but I think I can pick. I can't.
Speaker 2:I get your mind around. get there, okay.
Speaker 1:And mustard and flint, some vitamin Well we're gonna make a little Walgreens stop.
Speaker 2:There's no chance. There's no, no chance. It's happening.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah I don't like, i don't like mustard.
Speaker 2:Oh ever. Well, mustard makes a sandwich. Man, the right mustard.
Speaker 1:I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure mustard and a flint some vitamin that may. That may be against the Geneva code.
Speaker 2:There's international treaty law. What if that's like the remedy if you're sick, like that's how it gets it out of your system, right, like it's a. It's a natural?
Speaker 1:What if we just geared cancer?
Speaker 2:That's it. No, that's too far. There's no way. That's too far.
Speaker 1:It's got vitamins and grains We can you imagine, imagine that like headline, we found the gear you're not gonna like it.
Speaker 2:That's the line. You're not gonna like it. Taste great. Oh there's no cereal for that one.
Speaker 1:We were not planning on going here and I apologize, no, you took us there.
Speaker 2:I don't know where you're gonna take us next Some to somewhere better than that the conversation that we had which might be better than medicine, is the ways in which we were And talking about importance of growth.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah so hard to hard turn.
Speaker 2:So Flintstones vitamins for growing kids, this episode of the shabu stir, a vitamin for growing youth Pivot. So back to the episode. We did it That we went to talk about growth, and I think the thing we talk about growth is it relates to youth ministry, is it's rarely Accidental.
Speaker 2:Yeah and that's something that's a hard pill, yeah, to swallow, because I think it's the thing that everybody wants. But nobody talks about how intentional, consistent and patient you have to be in a lot of disciplines. I think there's something really important to talk about. Like I, my desire is for growth. Like what else you're signing up for when you sign up for that statement? You're signing up to be patient. You're signing up for a little bit of pain. You're signing up for intentional rest. You're signing up to be stretched. You're signing up to make sacrifice, like if the thing that you want is what you say you want. There are necessary elements and dare I even say consequences, to that desire.
Speaker 1:So, first of all, i think a lot of times when we think about growth student ministry because this is a conversation a Lot of times we think about new game, numerical growth. Yeah inside of our student ministry. That's not at all what we're talking about today at all.
Speaker 2:We're talking about personal growth, yeah.
Speaker 1:With you. I youth pastors, so you're at a place in your life.
Speaker 2:Which we actually think is part of the sauce, of the numerical growth you want.
Speaker 1:It starts more with you than it does with them so the side thing that I would say is The first question I would ask where do you think a desire for growth comes from for most people?
Speaker 2:For most people, i think there's a desire that it comes from. People are not. Usually It's the grass is always greener. I want something else. There is that natural tendency of I have what I have, but I wonder what it would be like if I had more different. Right or wrong. You know, i have a car. What about a newer car? I have things. What have I had more things? There's a little bit of that like Tendency towards accumulation or greed or stuff that we just kind of want more And then I think from there it spirals into different.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think the answer to this question probably depends a lot on Self-view okay, self-worth okay.
Speaker 2:Am I worth enough as I am right now?
Speaker 1:Well, i, so I could see growth coming from a place. So, okay, if you don't think very highly of yourself, you probably have a desire of growth to not stay there. Okay, you look at what you are, you have what you have and It's like I, the The poor viewer, the poor self-talk would be like you're not enough, you need to become better. There are also people that maybe have a high self-view of I'm already good, i want to become great.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay right. I'm bad, make me good. I'm good, make me best.
Speaker 1:Yes, and I think those are probably two different places to come at growth from. I Don't know that either one of them, if probably the best spot, to be very honest. Okay, i think that there's probably some other new answers, probably some other people out there that are just in a place of you've always been told you're supposed to grow.
Speaker 2:And so you come at it. It's the next thing you do. It's the next thing you do.
Speaker 1:We're always doing that. There's probably some people that are bored. I want a change.
Speaker 2:I think some folks, as much as we, resist change sometimes, other times we kind of value it because it means that we aren't stuck. I think for a lot of folks, when they say they don't want change, that's not true. They just don't want change at the rate that you're presenting it. I think everybody actually does want change. It's at the rate that they can tolerate. So, I think that's where some of that desire for growth is different for everybody, but I think there's something underpinning that a little bit.
Speaker 1:I think one of the misconceptions and it's what I really wanted to talk about on this episode is, i think, that good growth is always intentional And I think, even for people that desire growth or desire change, i think that there's this misleading view that time will ultimately lead to change, and I actually think that time simply leads to not actually change, but just a gradual progression of the consequences. Okay, the path that you're set on, the path that you're set on, is not actual change over time. I mean, in a way, it is right, but it's not leading to a different trajectory. Okay.
Speaker 2:We've got to set the rocket on its course to go somewhere. Again. It's the inertia thing of people just fall into. It's the James Clear line of people don't rise to the occasion, they fall to their habits. And for so many folks we have aspirations of the things that we wanna do, and that's great. Passion is powerful, inspiration is strong, but most of us fall to our patterns or behaviors or our rhythms, as opposed to the one shining moment of what we hoped to do.
Speaker 1:Right? Well, i think that's the case with a lot of like, maybe even natural growth People that are naturally curious right, we'll probably grow in different areas naturally because of their curiosity. Where, i would say, if you take that person who's naturally curious and help give them focus and a plan to grow in a certain area, they're going to see much better results. So, if you've been listening for a while, you know that I got highly addicted to chess. I really wanted to grow in being a chess player And I learned really quickly. I mean cause I started playing online, yeah, every day, every day, for hours a day for ever.
Speaker 1:Some days in the heat beings yeah, and I was slowly growing, yeah, when I actually started reading chess books, doing training courses Yeah.
Speaker 2:It was like Driving the chess magazine.
Speaker 1:We're not going to get into all the details. There's a chess magazine. It's good. You get a free subscription when you get a fighter rating.
Speaker 2:I went boom. Okay, quickly. Intentionality Intentionality I mean you start actually learning. You weren't just putting in reps, You were putting in thoughtful time. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, and your reps start to become very different. Okay, i stopped evaluating as many games that I was winning and started evaluating more games that I was losing.
Speaker 2:Which for some folks, is too painful to bear right Like to spend more time on the things that were your failures than to celebrate your successes. That's a shift. It is. That's a shift. What you're not doing right versus man I do these things so good Is a very different mindset, cause it's fun to look at games you won. Oh yeah, show everybody, tell your friends, share to Instagram.
Speaker 1:You're like look at this awesome move, Yeah.
Speaker 2:You sent me some of those. Yeah, i was like look at this win. Yeah, you're like wow. I don't even know, i don't get it. I guess the sacrifice paid off, i don't know.
Speaker 1:You didn't sit at your house and just wonder.
Speaker 2:Study Just study.
Speaker 1:Wander at my amazement.
Speaker 2:Yeah, So good, So good. You know you've got a really good friend who's into something and they send you their chest highlights via the app. But shout out to chestcom for having a highlight feature where it's like watch me win this match in seven moves Super cool.
Speaker 1:Are you? are you even friends? You know it's hard to know. I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 2:I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 1:It's so good, i'm so excited.
Speaker 2:It's all I'm waiting for. I'm proud of your choices, thank you buddy Your commitments, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:No, but intentionality. The whole idea that I just wanted to communicate is when we really desire growth in certain areas, we become intentional, not only about the outcome that we want, but the process to get there. Yeah, and I think in even things like being a great student, pastor or teacher, any of those kinds of things like it takes intentionality to grow. Yeah, i also think that it takes surrounding yourself with people that are willing to push you. Yeah, yeah, cause that matters a lot.
Speaker 2:Well, so we talked at the first of the year some of the things about health goals from 22 and a 23, and one of the things of last year was trying to be consistent and this year trying to be intense. The intensity went up And the way the intensity went up. for me and some of the things that we were trying to do right to be more physically healthy meant being a part of a group of people that go to work out. So like my buddy, chase, and I go every morning at six o'clock, so it's not just like Zach's doing the thing. I now have someone who's pushing me and we even have a coach. there's a group of coaches that rotate with people that actually like push us beyond even just our desire to show up. I mean, it is the like I'm not just going to the gym. There's now like, is that even the right rep And are you even lifting the right amount of weight?
Speaker 2:And I think for so many of us in our lives, whether that's in the discipline of how we're leading. we just spent a few days with a bunch of preachers at the experience is our second year doing it. We love that event because people are bringing their notes, they're submitting manuscripts early to be in a cohort to be examined, right, like what a bold and wonderful, courageous thing of like. okay, what do y'all think? And they're getting peer feedback and they're getting a coach or cohort leader feedback, and then they're like doing the thing that they're very proud of in front of other people, submitted for review. And I think, man, that is like such a great model for what it means that I do want to grow and not just like listen to a bunch of sermons of like I could do what he does.
Speaker 2:Maybe, but also, but probably not, because that person that's at that spot has probably had a lot of people run them through the filter of making them better, squeezing out the things that got in the way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so Let's talk a little bit Booster this next year. It's a big change for us. We're doing some things different.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And specifically to this, of being able to, like, set intentional goals, those kind of things. Do you want to talk a? little bit about that.
Speaker 2:So Youth Ministry Booster has been, will always be, a community of youth ministry leaders part-time, full-time men and women that are leading students in their church context. It's monthly conversations, it's resources to equip you to lead. But this year, for season five, we thought, instead of having just monthly challenges or conversation pieces, we wanted to give five challenges. One of the conversations in ministry right now is revival And I think there's a lot of young ministers, pastors, youth ministers, church leaders, young people, college students that are looking for, hoping for, desiring revival And as ministry leaders, we kind of, i think, at times, want that for them.
Speaker 2:We're so excited to see the kids from Asbury or the kids at Norman Oklahoma gathering for a big night of worship or that God's on the move.
Speaker 2:But one of the things that has been like heavy on our hearts is that revival starts in the hearts of those that seek revival, which has to be us. We can't just want it for our kids, our students, the next generation, we have to want it for ourselves. And so this year, season five, five 60-day challenges that we think as a community, to help reshape the conversation of what it means to be revived to the Lord, revived to the work, revived to the ways in which our heart, our health, our home and the ways in which we lead, pastor and nurture this now, next generation, really matter, and so it's not just that we're gonna be in our cohorts, but we're gonna call on the whole community, invite you to the whole community to be challenged by the ways in which there have been parts of us that have been dead or dormant or have not sought revival under the lens or the examination of what needs to be brought back to life.
Speaker 1:Well, that's what I'm excited about too is the added element this next year of not only getting to meet in your individual smaller groups.
Speaker 2:Find your cohort of 10. We love that. We help match that make that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but then there's also going to be some like big gatherings of everybody with you and I Yeah, to where we're going to be able to both answer some questions, have some engagement, but then to set the tone of like, hey, over the next 60 days, here is, here's the big goal, or not goal, but here's the big focus.
Speaker 1:The challenge, the push We want you to make an individual goal for yourself. Yeah, And so there's going to be some accountability. I think accountability is one of those things that we kind of shy away from. I know in the past I've had We want it for them but not for us. Yeah, yeah. or some really like lame accountability of like we just get together and it's like we didn't do anything.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Reach out if you need me, right, but I want us to be able to set some goals to strive after as a community and hopefully, in these five areas, be able to see some both individuals' goals met, but then collectively, us to be able to say, hey, like we're hanging our hat on this. We want to change this outcome because at this point, even if you're in Youth Minister Booster, you see your cohort. Yeah, there's a very large network of youth pastors that have gathered in Booster now. That I think is really cool to see that come together.
Speaker 1:Yeah, To be able to say, like nationally we're trying to focus on this together of like, i mean everything from like physical health, mental health, spiritual health, all of these kinds of things pushing each other for personal revival. Yeah, you know, i know, in Shane's book he talks a little bit about drawing the circle around himself and that revival would start there.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I think, for us understanding that, like, if we want, you know, revival could mean multiple things. Right, But for change to happen, for it to begin with us as we lead the students that God's called us to lead, that's good, that's good.
Speaker 2:So we're excited about this next season And I think, for those of you that are looking down this summer or this next season or fall, if your heart is to see revival in the next generation now, would you take the steps to be a part of the conversation, the community, to have revival now in you for what's next.
Speaker 2:And I think it starts with the pastor's hearts that are willing to lead it.
Speaker 2:I mean all the folks that we point to of the books that we read, whether it's Jones or Edwards or whoever we love, that talks about like the history or the guide to revival. It's coming from a pastor's heart who's willing to be really honest with who they are and who they are not and who they really need. And it is vital to revitalize the ways in which we are about what we're doing and to just go about more work. Hoping for better is not the way, is not the play, is not the hope. And so for this next season, we want to invite you to join in, to be a part of the conversation, the connection. We're going to keep talking about it on these podcasts, but we want to invite you to be a participant to it, to sign up to be a part of what does it mean to be a generation of pastors seeking revival ministers to the youth and the young adults that we hope to see as a revival generation by being the stewards of the mystery that we're trying to shepherd them into?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I think to see that happen, i think we have to pray together more. I think we have to be more intentional about being in God's word, like obedience on our own account, but then also like repentance of being able to like, go hey, like even if I don't think it's a big deal, it is like and I want, i want change to happen in my own life, and that's not always easy, but I think having a community of people that we know love us and care man, we've said it. I don't know if we've ever made this statement on Mike, but I know that you and I've had this conversation about our own friendship and pushing each other.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Of going. Hey, like we know that we have a friendship, that we can let each other down And we're going to be there. We're not going to. Let us stay in that, right, but there's nothing that you're going to do, that I'm like, well, i'm out.
Speaker 2:Done. That was it Yeah.
Speaker 1:You've messed up one too many times working, and I think for us, the thing that I really hope, for you and I is that end of our life we can look back and say, hey, like we tried to make an impact in the world of student ministry, of creating some friendships with people in the trenches not necessarily with you and I, but like that they can create them to have friendships. They look at each other and go for the importance of the church and the sake of the gospel. We're going to push each other, we're going to die, and I think we need more and more ministers that answer, that call Um and live into the reality of what it looks like, first and foremost, to be a follower of jesus christ that learns to die to himself and learns to understand that I must decrease, so he must increase.
Speaker 2:So you're invited. Sometimes things go unsaid, so let me say it clear You are invited, full-time, part-time, volunteer podcast listener. If you believe And have a desire for this next generation, would you lead the way in humble servitude, of desiring first for yourself To be revived, to acknowledge what has died and what must be risen again? It's our hope and this hope for this generation, and it starts with us, you.